Our View of the Father and the Son
Since people are sometimes
confused as to what exactly we believe in regard to
whether Yahshua is also Yahweh or Elohim the Father, I have
found it necessary to write the following article, so
that we may all speak the same language according to the
same Spirit.
When I was led to put my pen on paper to share with
Yahshua’s People, worldwide, the mystery of the later-days’
restoration of the Original Doctrine According to Yahshua, I
was inspired to write the following argument in refutation of
Jehovah Witnesses’ error. Please read it ,calmly, as it lays
the foundation for what I am going to say. I’ll be as concise
and brief as possible for a good reason. Further details are
in the hands of the brethren. However, I will caution everyone
to tread, carefully, for as I rightly said in my quote from our Restoration Book,
'There is indeed a
great mystery, here, almost totally inaccessible to human
understanding.' It is my attitude not to venture,
needlessly, into “divinely” restrictive areas not yet
revealed to mankind, for it does no good to dangerously
speculate on things that Yahweh clearly demonstrates are
reserved for a different age, when we become
At-One-With-Elohim. My conclusion is that nobody, on earth,
has the intellectual acuity and wit to fully comprehend the
profundity of the infinitely unsearchable depth of the
mystery of the co-existence of the Father and the Son.
Here we go. I am going to share with you, exactly, what I
teach in the Temple.
{[Jehovah Witnesses stumble on Col.1:15 which says, "He is
the image of the invisible Elohim, the firstborn over all
creation." They conclude that He was created, and that He is
the Archangel Michael. They say that it is by adoption
Yahshua receives sonship. They are thus saying that He is
not like the Father in all things. Such teaching is totally
anti-Messiah. If Yahshua was an angel (Michael) adopted by
Elohim the Father, therefore there was, when He was not.
Apostle John, in this case, speaking under the inspiration
of the Spirit, would therefore be lying when he says that
the Word was with the Father at and in the beginning.
That beginning is before creation of the angels. It is a
profanity to say that Yahshua is "a work". Yahshua says that
He is in the Father and the Father is in Him. He has always
been with the Father. Yahshua emanates from the Father. The
Bible says that Yahshua is "the brightness of His
glory"(Heb.1: 3). He is the light that shines and goes forth
from the Father. The Father is the source of that light
which Yahshua is. Just like the sun shines and sends forth
its light, so is Yahshua from the Father. Yahshua is the
brightness of the Father just like the light of the sun is
the brightness of the sun. The Son is not cut off from the
Father, even though we see them separately, just like the
light of the sun is continuous and is not and cannot be cut
off nor be separated from the source of the light, the sun.
Yahshua is the mirror image of the Father.
[He is "the express image of His person"; that is,
the pure expression of His (the Father) personality. And
what is this personality?]
[YHWH Elohim is love. And Yahshua is an expression of it.
This is why He agreed from the beginning to give His life
for our salvation. Yahshua is called Wonderful, Wisdom,
Mighty Elohim, Everlasting Father, and Prince of Peace. All
these are the Father's qualities. The Son is called
"Everlasting Father", a testimony of the Spirit by the mouth
of a prophet. The Son says, "I am the Beginning and the End,
who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty (El
Shaddai)" (Rev.1:8) In the mouth of two witnesses the truth
is established.]
[There is indeed a great mystery, here, almost totally
inaccessible to human understanding. Thus, those that have
itching minds try to come up with all sorts of philosophical
reasoning that lead to profanity, because they have not
received the Spirit of Wisdom. They probably never read
Hebrew 1:5, for it is written, "to which of the angels did
He [the Father] ever say: 'You are My son, today I have
begotten you?', and again: 'I will be to him a Father, and
he shall be to Me a son?' But when He again brings the
First-born into the world, He says: 'Let the angels of
Elohim worship Him [the Son]. And of the angel He says:
'Who makes his angels spirits and His ministers flame of
fire.' But of the Son He says, 'Your throne, O Elohim
[Messiah] is forever; a scepter of righteousness is the
scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness
[obedience to My law] and hated lawlessness.
Therefore Elohim [Messiah], Your Elohim [the Father]
has anointed You..." For those who can think logically, the
Bible plainly says, here, that Elohim never, at any time,
says to ANY ANGEL that he is ADOPTED and now has become a
son.]
[What they don't understand is that Yahshua became the
First-born over the creation by His death and resurrection.
He is the First Fruit of the first fruits [the 144,000 kings
and priests], the First-born of the first-borns (the angels
are not included). Messiah, in a symbolical way, has become
a new creature of the creatures of Elohim, from becoming the
first Adam in the flesh, the Spiritual Word once incarnated.
He had become, for a purpose, what the old creation is still
to this day, in a state of sin, enduring suffering. He was
raised with a spiritual, glorious body; the entire creation
will also be renewed gloriously according to the image of
Messiah (1 John 3:2; Roman 8:18-23).]
[Messiah was not created, but became a creature, in a
symbolical way, to save men [the creatures] and creation now
in the bondage of sin. "Messiah the First Fruit,
afterward those who belong to Him at His coming (1
Cor.15: 23) }]
Of the several things said in the above quote, please allow
me to underline two, only:
First, Yahshua is not a creature. Secondly, the Tanakh
clearly calls Yahshua “Everlasting Father”. The last book of
the Messianic B’rit Chadashah records Yahshua referring to
Himself as the Aleph and the Taw, Rev. 22. So, are Yahshua
and the Father two separate persons, or are they one and the
same?
The right thing to do, here, is to allow the Bible to speak
and interpret itself, then putting scriptures upon
scriptures we shall make annotations as we go along, then
draw a synthesis. And this will be our Doctrinal Position.
“If you have known Me, you would have known My Father also;
and from now on you know Him and have seen Him. Philip said
to Him, ‘Master show us the father, and it is sufficient for
us.’Yahshua said to him, ‘Have I been with you for so long,
and yet you have not known me, Philip? He who has seen Me
has seen the Father; so how can you say show me the Father?
Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father
is in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak of my
own authority, but the Father who dwells in Me does the
works.
“Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in
Me...”, John 14: 7 - 11.
According to the above, ‘I in
the father and the Father in Me’, they are perfectly united,
having intrinsically the same "nature" (if I can use this
word). Now, does the Father live in us? How can He live in us?
By what scheme or spiritual principal?
Apostle Yohanan says, "No one
has seen Elohim at any time. If we love one another, Elohim
abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us." 1
Yohanan 4: 12.
Elohim is Love. When His love
is perfectly practiced in us, He abides in us. On the other
hand, when the devil lives or is in somebody, how does he act?
Did Yahshua and is Yahshua, and
has Yahshua always been in perfect love with the Father? Has
the Son and the Father always co-existentially live in perfect
love, being intrinsically of the same substance? Proverbs 8:
22.
"By this we know that we abide
in Him, and he in us, because He has given us His Spirit. And
we have seen and testified that the father sent the Son as
savior of the World." 1 Yohanan 4: 12-14.
Who sent who?
"Whosoever confess that Yahshua
is the Son of Elohim, Elohim abides in Him, and he in Elohim."
1 Yohanan 4: 15.
Heavenly Father, I confess that
Yahshua is your Son!!!
According to the above reading, again, Yahshua does not say He is
the Father and the Father is Him. He says, I am in the
Father and the Father is in Me. Therefore, if you have seen
Me, you have seen the Father. I can see no problem with
that, for Yahshua is the very image, dot for dot, the very
express image of the Father’s person. He is a reflection, a
mirror-image of the Father, Hebrews 1: 3. That He is not the
Very Heavenly Father is obvious within the same context, for
He goes on to say, “The Works that I do, I do on the
authority given to Me by my Father...,V.10; I go to my
Father..., V.12; I will pray the Father, and He will give
you another Helper..., V.16.” Yahshua is definitely
referring to somebody other than Himself, here. John
recorded Him saying, “I am the Son of Elohim”, John 10: 36.
That Yahshua answers to somebody else’s authority is made
evident in Yahshua saying several times, “Of my own I can
speak or do nothing, but the Father who dwells in Me does the
works.” He clearly acknowledges the higher-ranking of the Father,
“...My Father is greater than I, V.28; ...I am the true
vine, and My Father is the vinedresser, John 15: 1; I have
kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love, 15: 10.
My Father taught Me, I speak these things, John 8: 28.
“I [the Son, the subordinate] have glorified You [the
Supreme Master] on earth. I have finished the work which You
have given to Me to do. And now, O Father, glorify Me [the
Son] together with yourself, with the glory which I had with
You before the world was.” John 17: 4- 5 You may want to
read the whole chapter.
Based on these scriptures Yahshua is the Son. He is not the
Father. We need to go through Him to get to the Father, John
14: 6. On the stake He called to Elohei and asked why has
thou forsaken Me. He proceeded forth and came from the
Father, John 8: 42.
But, in Yahshua dwells the Fullness of the Father, Col. 2:
9. As such He is representatively or manifestly the Father.
Will the Father dwell in us one day? The answer is yes. And when that day
arrives “...you will know that I am in the Father, and you
in Me, and I in you, John 14: 19. I pray Father “that they
all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You,
that they also may be one in Us..., John 17: 21.
Yahshua dwelling in me, though, does not make me Yahshua.
Let us remember, brethren, the many different translations
out there. Some people imagine that for knowing a few things
or being fluent in Hebrew or Greek, they know the truth,
too. Well I am fluent in several languages, myself; even
when I would be a literary scholar in every one of them, I
would still fall short of understanding the Bible, should
the Bible have been written in any one of them, without my
having been called by Elohim for the purpose of receiving
and imparting
understanding of His Word to His people.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with
Elohim, and the Word was in Elohim...And the Word became
flesh and dwelt among us; and we beheld His glory..., John
1: 1, 14.”
I know, some translators say “...the word was Elohim”.
Surely, the Word is Elohim. And Elohim said, “Let us make
man in Our image, according to Our likeness..., Gen.1: 26"
This is not said of the angels. These beings seem to come in
all “forms” and “shapes”, Ezekiel 10. Etc. I am a man, and
my son is a man; but I am what I am: I am I, my son is what
he is. Yet, we are both man or human. The Pharisees and
Sadducees and the Sanhedrin recognizes that Yahshua claimed
to be Elohim for saying “I and My Father are one. Remember
what I said before: they are of the same substance and
nature.
I can, therefore, understand the absoluteness of “Before
Abraham was I AM, John 8: 58.”
Of course, He Is and Was. “Yahweh said to my Elohim, ‘Sit at
My right hand, till I make your enemies Your footstool.”
Psalms 110: 1. Wo, wo, wo! What should I make up of this?
"Sit at my right hand!?" What
is He doing there? Talking to His other split persnality? No.
We have an advocate with the Father, Yahshua the righteous, 1
John 2: 1.
The Diocetists thought that His
being a Son was only a fake. No real Son, no real human body,
it was all a fake!!! As far as they were concerned he was the
Super Father faking to be the Son. Oh. Mine, mine, mine!!! Can
you imagine. I can’t. I absolutely can’t? I shall not be
guilty of 1 John 4.
It is written, “Yahweh set me up (qanah) at the beginning of
His way, before His works of old. I have been established
from everlasting, from the very beginning, before there was
ever an earth... [the Word was with Elohim]... I was beside
Him [Yahweh], as a Master craftsman... [All things were made
through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was
made], and I was daily His delight..., Prov. 8: 22.”
Now, is Elohim divided because there is a Father and there
is a Son? Does the Scripture ever refers to Yahshua as
Everlasting Father? It sure does in Is. 9: 6. But when, at
what point in the unfolding of the Divine Mystery, and how?
And know that just because a group of words are bunched, together,
this does not mean their oracles materialized within the same
laps of time.
Then the sign of the Son of Man [Yahshua] will appear in
heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and
they will see the Son of Man [Yahshua] coming on the clouds
of heaven with power and great glory, Mat. 24: 30. This same
Son of Man says, "I am the Aleph and the Taw, the Beginning
and the End, says Yahweh who is and who was and who is to
come, the Almighty ...write what you see, write in a
scroll... Rev.1: 8, 11."
Yohanan turned to see who was talking to him. He saw One
like the Son of Man [Yahshua]. ...The Aleph-and-the-Taw says
to Yohanan, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last.
I am He [Yahshua] who lives and was dead... V. 17 - 18.”
In Rev. 22:12 - 13, “Behold, I am coming quickly, and My
reward is with Me, to give to each according to his work. I
am the Aleph and the Taw, the Beginning and the End, the
First and the Last.”
Like it or not, They are there being equated. Nobody
understands the deep intricacy of this revelation. And this
is where I am cautioning talmidim to be careful. Throughout
the Book of Revelation we find two supreme beings, yet one
Supreme Master. The book opens up with the Word who
acknowledges the Father as the giver of His revelation, V.
1. There is an affirmation of the Echad in the first
chapter. And the apocalyptic oracles climax into the
Pre-existing Unity of the beginning.
Abraham knew that and he addressed Him properly. “And Yahweh
said, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am doing?... Indeed
now, I who am but dust... have taken upon myself to speak to
Yahweh, Gen.18: 17 - 33.” The sublimity of this oneness is
barricaded in the Shema: “Shema Yisrael, Yahweh Eloheinu,
Yahweh Echad, Deut.6: 6.” Yahshua is called King of Kings,
Master of Masters, Rev. 19: 16. In Isaiah 44: 6, the prophet
wrote, “Thus says Yahweh, the King of Yisrael... the Elohim
of hosts: I am the Aleph and the Taw. Besides me there is no
Elohim.” In Isaiah 45: 5 and 46: 9 “I am Yahweh, and there
is no other; there is no Elohim besides Me... I am Elohim,
there is none like Me.”
Yahshua is called the Word of Elohim. Yahweh Elohim created
everything by His Word [Yahshua], Gen. 1, Prov. 8, John 1.
The working of the Word is the power of Yahweh, the Ruach
HaQodesh, Psalms 104: 30. If one can imagine Yahweh moving,
filling anywhere, everywhere, by shear will, without ever
living/displacing Himself from whatever point He started,
truly without a starting point, like a circle, with no
beginning nor end. He is that which is moving, the Ruach,
the Set-Apart Spirit, John 4: 24, manifesting His presence,
capable of filling a space, yet wholly retaining His
wholesomeness outside the space, while wholly present in
that space.
I do not know how else to put it.
In the end of this 'Divine Drama', the Lamb, who sits on the
throne with Yahweh El Shaddai, having reigned until all
enemies have been put under His feet, and having destroyed
Death, the Son Himself is made subject to Him who put all
things under Him, that Elohim may be all in all, 1 Cor, 15:
20 - 28. Until then the Son remains, manifestly, the fullness
of the Father’s power and glory.
Thus we conclude the Ruach HaQodesh is a manifestation of
the Father; the Son is a Manifestation of the Father. Yahweh
El Shaddai is a Spirit. A Spirit does not have a Spirit. The
will of the Spirit is what is made manifest for us humans to
experience. Though the air stands still the wind is always
present. The air is still-wind. You may feel it when you
start moving fast.
Contrary to what some people
are saying what borderlines the Christian
Trinitarian Doctrine is not the belief that Yahweh literally
dyed for us in
and through the Son, or Him living in us as and by what we
know as the Ruach, but the idea of Body, Soul, and Spirit;
for the Word clearly says man is a “living nephesh [soul]”,
while he is alive, or he is a “dead nephesh [soul]. The
spirit [blown into him by Elohim] and the image after which
he was created made him different from the nephesh of a
donkey, which by the way could talk and reason if that was
part of the of its existence, “The ass said unto Bal’aam, am
I not thine ass..., Num. 22:30.”
Brethren, “...now we are children of Elohim, and it has not
yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when he
is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as
He is, 1 John 3: 2.”
Blessed are those who do not keep browsing the Interenet,
picking one thing here and another thing there, to create a
package of confusion, which is what I see happening to many
people, who become unable to make up their minds as to which
teacher they should listen to, and therefore remain lost in
tunnels of theological escapades, forever. I will venture to
say that which anybody else before me has said:
A lot of people are jumping in
with their own interpretations of Debarim (Deuteronomy) 6: 4.
They forgot the context of the "Shema", though. To a Gentile
the sky was a god, the sun was a god, the wind, the sea, the
mountains, the moon, and every planet, etc. The one Goyim
would adore more than one god. He believed that Amon Rah was
as good as Molleck, Ba'al, Zeus, Apollo, Jupiter, Nimrod,
Ishtar, Cybele, Diane, Tammuz, etc. He would have altars for
several gods, as they still do in India and in other Asian
countries, or closer, here, in Santeria, and in Voodoo. But,
we, the Hebrews, believe and cry to Israel and the whole
world:
"Shema, Yisrael, Yahweh Elohaynu, Yahweh Echad."
There are deeper things I feel about this subject that I’d
rather not express, for they are inexpressible in that I, a
human, do not have the intelligence to do so. I prefer to
wait for the fulfillment of the last word of Rev. 22: 21.
AMEIN!
Yohanan
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